{"id":67394,"date":"2025-08-18T02:00:16","date_gmt":"2025-08-18T09:00:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.richroll.com\/?p=67394"},"modified":"2025-09-02T15:05:45","modified_gmt":"2025-09-02T22:05:45","slug":"james-frey-930","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.richroll.com\/podcast\/james-frey-930\/","title":{"rendered":"Addiction, Celebrity, Public Shaming &#038; Truth: The Performance Art of James Frey, Celebrated Writer of Ill-Repute"},"content":{"rendered":"[vc_row type=&#8221;full_width_background&#8221; full_screen_row_position=&#8221;middle&#8221; column_margin=&#8221;default&#8221; column_direction=&#8221;default&#8221; column_direction_tablet=&#8221;default&#8221; column_direction_phone=&#8221;default&#8221; bg_color=&#8221;#000000&#8243; bg_image=&#8221;67403&#8243; bg_position=&#8221;center center&#8221; background_image_loading=&#8221;default&#8221; bg_repeat=&#8221;no-repeat&#8221; scene_position=&#8221;center&#8221; top_padding=&#8221;16%&#8221; bottom_padding=&#8221;15%&#8221; 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